The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. No problems when used within its limits. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. These are not military combat weapons. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. Guess what? The thing stinks. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. Just keep shooting your pistol. By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. I still have the same problem. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. I appreciate the review. No problems what so ever. I like its feel in my hand. You sound smart. Anyway, all just my opinion here. Nicer than the price would indicate. Then I go to the LGS and shoot the guns myself, having sorted down to a handful that might meet my needs. Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. And surely have not shot one or very little. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. Or the Kahr in there? like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Did you give them Cyrillic numbers to rate with? Or did all those voters fly to Russia to test them out? Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. They are kind of like the Nancy Pelosis in the outdoor industry. Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. I have received grief for it as well. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. But unlike those highly rated guns, the Hellcat IIs rating is in the toilet. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. Mild. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Great little pistol. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. The trigger is long and has some over travel but its very smooth. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. Bersa Thunder 5. She shot both, along with a used Beretta .380, and chose the Sig despite the price being just about double at the time. Its manageable. The double 1911 also has ratings. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. Oh not to mention Sccy has great Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Broke the ejector. All I know is my 1st CPX-2 had to be sent in for service 30 minutes after I got it home. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. How so? Solid with FMJ round nose once broken in, will NOT feed hollow points until after a trip back to the factory. The Picos have a huge fan base. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Did they succeed? Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. Must be the best gun ever. I also have the Kahr. My shooting buddy has an LCP. Too many women wind up dropping the gun which the thug grabs and then uses on the woman. Ultra smooth shooters. 400 hundred rounds of various FMJ and hollow points without a single failure. Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. I had issues with mine to start. OMG! Its tight, even well after break-in. Does this guy have any gun expertise? 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. Both nice guns, the Pico is the clear winner. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. To each his own . Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. I like the concept at least. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. I went through 4 LCP. Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. Very small would suggest either real fanboys or real haters. Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. This article was total BS. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. Thats what made my wife choose a Sig P238, which I carry occasionally. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. Best 380 Ive ever had. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. The warranty cant be beat. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Anyone have the Bersa .380. Bought it brand new. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? Because they werent reliable? Funny. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. IT is NOT stiff at all. Super gun, works every time. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. based on what your stupid opinion? This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. Literally, it is.) No problem with the SCCY at all. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. But if ultimate concealment is the need, then just accept that it will need to be .380. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. Horrible, awful trigger. Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. A bunch. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Extremely Mild, Plus P rated, Modular design, mags that look like Custom 1911 stainless steel. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). The Pico is top shelf. Its a joy to shoot. How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. Buy Your Tickets Today! One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? I trust my Hellcat 380 as much as I do my S & W 39, but I prefer a tight revolver over any semi-auto when my life depends on it. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. I. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. In light of that, the valuable service you claim hes doing may well be smoke and mirrors. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. . But still, Im sure there are worse ones. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. Its not Remington R51 bad, but its a pretty lousy firearm. 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? It came back still not fixed. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g CM40 is my summe4 carry. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. He didnt even require them to be positive. I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. However, it is pricey and a bit bulkier than some of the others. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. 8===D~. Sure just I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. No thanks. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. either love or hate. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. We both agreed, the TCP trigger was superior to the LCP. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! Everything they make are just wrought with problems. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. Have owned and shot most of them. In a fight you wont notice it. One now has over 4,000 rounds of flawless ammo down range the other now over 1500 and have never broken a firing pin. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. . Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. He does not know how to use it. My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. I just cant see myself ever paying for a gun called SuCCY! Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. Why people follow them is a mystery. So there. . How is it possibly at the top of the list? From what I have heard the folks at SCCY provide great customer service. The wisdom of the crowd phenomenon? Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Thank-you. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. Are you kidding me? We saw your review and write up. These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light I really wanted to like the gun. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. No issues to complain about. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). For College Campuses! Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. The trigger reset does suck but its still a great gun. I can do it blind folded. After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. Yes it did. His post show that he is just posting without knowledge of the firearms. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. I challange anyone to break down the Pico and compare all parts to any of the Aluminum Chassis Pocket guns. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. Look at the back of the slide. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. I laughed when I got to the CM40. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. . Plus, the Picos 9mm cousin, the Nano, rates well above average. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. Only time I tried one I did not like it. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. All run like sewing machines. So the recoil is stout. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. I love the Pico. Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? I know one person who had a nightmare of an experience with the Diamondback ..380. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. Check out the 380 showdown in GunWorldin 2012all 3 Keltecs broke and wouldnt run right. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. Hey, look But the reset on the trigger was so ridiculously long Id often miss follow up shots because I handt let it out far enough to reset. Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. No problems with it at all. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. Do they now have 12 round mags? Here is some news for you. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. Bottom line: you can do much better. The one I had was utter shit. All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ Stainless steel through out the gun. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. BUT! Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. AMEN . I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. No issue with it. After this 1911 bill gets passed, Ill be carrying a 1911. The Mag release is a piece of cake. Non shooters called me a liar that we could do it, but any bad guy within 30 yards is in great danger, even though it has been a long time. CPX 2. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. And just recently bought my Third Pico. I own a hp380. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg I have two of the Picos. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? No I dont own one I own two. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. Im curious as to how you derived your +/- error bars and why you are calling 25-50 votes statistically significant. 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