Where was Ha Sun the whole time in those two years???? I didn't even recognize him from his turn as wild and crazy PD Lee Gang in RADIO ROMANCE. But I dont know the Clown. It really speaks out my mind almost perfectly why I did not really enjoy watching this drama, especially after Yi Heon's death. Thats my point. (~You know, its kind of paradoxical. Sorry for the late reply! all had loyal supporters! A character as significant and prominent as the King, doesnt even have to be on screen for anything that happens to him to be very important to how your plot plays out if you want your plot to make sense. I loved the show but we need to know How he survived. But of course everyone can have its own opinion. His weaknesses. ???? It was the most interesting part, the relationships he had with Eunuch Jo, the Queen, Minister Lee, Moo Young, Ho Geol. It aired simultaneously with PBG's Moonlight Drawn by Clouds (MLDBC). I was surprise when Ha Sun decide to abdicated but again it just makes the ending more beautiful. One that is like a wolf trying to be a sheep and telling everyone that it is a sheep, when its actually still a wolf. I just wish I could have commented more on CROWNED CLOWN, but the mental fatigue was real. that is not a given that's how it's scripted for sure. They want to show his loyalty via his death ? DEFINITELY MLDBC!! The guard somehow managed to rule for few more years but was assassinated later. That is what they wanted to tell. For all the aforementioned reasons. Lord Mountbatten (Charles Dance), a British Royal Navy . Here, I'm justwhat is even there to say? Btw, it's wonderful to see you back on the comment section <3. Everything you have written about this show is exactly what I felt towards the ending. // Load the SDK asynchronously She asks the little girl where she learned to make a wish like that, and the girl says a man who was passing by taught her. I was sure there would be a flashbacks putting thing in context. I'm still trying to catch up with HAECHI. To show how good and righteous the Clown was? 1. It showed his past. The transition is close. I recently read a forward (by Don Baker) to the Korean historical novel "Encounter" (1986) by Hahn Moo-Sook where he makes the point that scholars writing history are constrained to probability whereas novelists are constrained to possibility. He begs Ha Sun to let him send Minister Lee to his people, but Moo-young warns Ha Sun that opening the gates right now is too dangerous with the rebels right outside. Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. knew it would happen before the end of this drama: line 7, strike TTC and insert TCC. Me, too. And Haksan dying- so what. Re: Ha Seon (YJG) in fighting blue. But from what I gather, they didn't. It felt like I was really grinding my gears when I started watching HAECHI. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; I do not know of any other drama where it attracted the attention of so much of the wisest and knowledgeable beanies, SIMPLY because of its potential and not because it was actually a phenomenal drama. She presses a finger to the stress lines between his eyes, looking worried for him. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; He was responsible for the Queen Dowagers, Shin Chi Soo and the Princes deaths, plus the real King was a complete madman who was responsible for the Queen Dowagers fathers death and his half brothers death and many other atrocious things. In this video we take a deep dive and explain Season 5 of Netflix/Peter Morgan's "The Crown" reviewing its connection to the real royal family, history, and . The upcoming CHRONICLES OF ASDAL, set during Gojoseon days.) Connect with Facebook Did you read my essay? I am mad they reduced the King, Yi Heon, to nothing, when he was in my opinion the most interesting, and the most important character. She enters the palace at the pre-arranged time and finds Ha Sun alone in the throne room. In comparison, I was passionately and unequivocally committed to REBEL for the entire run of that show. This does not mean you cannot enjoy it. 2023 TheReviewGeek. Because the show you THOUGHT you were getting, the doppelganger plot with the tension and juxtaposition created by that, is actually a different show altogether. And Ill always be confused why the queen dowager knew that Ha Sun was an impostor, but she spoke to him as if he were Yi Heon (saying that he killed Prince Yul and stole the throne), when she had the chance to out him to the entire court. Or change the two years to two weeks. The queen dowager refuses to be led away, and walks out under her own power. What do you think is better? The Crown is a historical drama streaming television series about the reign of Queen Elizabeth II, created and principally written by Peter Morgan, and produced by Left Bank Pictures and Sony Pictures Television for Netflix.Morgan developed it from his drama film The Queen (2006) and especially his stage play The Audience (2013). She did get to meet his sister without knowing it was her. One day, Ha Suns ministers bring up the fact that hes led the country to a time of peace, but hes still produced no heirs. She notes that this is her first time seeing the throne in person, and that Prince Yul is dead, but her blood will soon sit on the throne. (I did watch it, and I was right.). If you have time, do go to MLSHR recaps and threads, even if you don't watch it. So-woon tells him that hes done enough, and that she supports his decision. Which sounds all well good. What a lovely ending. The Crowned Clown gave us characters to hate and root for. The Clown : Yeo Jin Gu really acted him very well, showing the subtil evolution from a simple puppet to a real King. The queen dowager grows nervous when things are quiet for too long, but then a soldier runs in to tell her excitedly that they stormed the palace and captured the impostor king. Yi Heon and his contradictions with Ha Sun was truly the only reason why I was intrigued by TCC in the first place. The two could have wandered the country checking that new reforms were taking place. To me this drama was about Haksan and his quest to get the Dadong tax law passed. A. Both of them walked right into Ha Sun's traps. The Crown is unlikely to continue past a sixth season, the Netflix show's executive producer has confirmed. Not as many ribbons and bows that way, but also no time skip that leaves more unanswered questions. So-woon had refused to accept it until theyd given her the compass, which theyd found next to Moo-youngs body. He manages to touch the pot of water, but he only tips it over as he dies. The queen dowager thinks a moment, then gives him permission to invade the palace and remove the clown from the throne. I said this in episode 8, and I will say it again. I guess my only questions are: Why? And I almost didnt even watch the reunion scene at the end because I knew exactly how it would play out. Not a big time period. And its not because I didnt get the ending that I wanted that makes me sad. Since NIF is set in fictional ancient China, I think it will be easier to differentiate HAECHI from it than from another sageuk. Some peasants could have been shown taking them in. 1 recap and comments before posting my thoughts on the finale, I noted that numerous Beanies were expecting to get more of Yi Heon's backstory. I learned a LOT back then. Hed answered that it was to serve Ha Sun loyally and die in the line of duty, and Moo-young gets his wish. The sweeping under the rug of the regicide, adultery, and treasonous impersonation issues was problematic for me. He hands her a letter from Ha Sun, which says that if she promises not to punish his people, he will confess his crimes and hand over the royal seal. It was unconvincing. js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js"; Shin Chi Soo, Queen Dowager and Prince Jinpyeong(?) 3/4 Even once a few people found out about Ha Seons identity, they for the most part just went on treating him like he was the real king all along, like Yi Heon didnt exist. She says that Ha Sun stole the throne from Prince Yul, and that she may drink poison and die, but shes not the loser, because Ha Sun will be remembered as the king who killed his mother. However instead of this being a huge and important plot point, and an opportunity for properly developed conflict and climax, this is practically swept under the rug. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! Why did you bother to watch it if you thought it was so bad? So what if youre a prince. The king was instantly killed. I hate sounding petty, but, uh, what? I suspect that having to contend with another court full of braying ministers was a bit too daunting. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); As for the cast, so many lovely talents and wonderful performances (my favorites being Jang Gwang, Jang Young-nam, and Kim Sang-kyung because I'm biased). To show how good and righteous the Clown was? So after the preliminary introductions, they used Yi Heon as a plot device, to get the Clown into the Kings position and then they abandoned the King. Honestly, his death was really a nice plot in the story. So-woon sits quietly in Ha Suns rooms while he mulls over everything thats happened. Poop smell can change for illnesses as well haha. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. :) He gives her a gift the knife that she almost used to take her own life when they first met. The survival of the great majority allows everything? Because whoever Yi Heon was, according to the makers of this show, no longer matters. Seriously reviewing shows is too exhausting; I rather like @hotcocoagirls idea of Yi Heon returning as a vampire, and becoming a sullen loose canon on the Officer Jang and Uri Mathematician investigative team. He believes that nobody should sit on the throne who wants to use it for personal gain, and that he wants to step down because he wants to go back to being one of the people. }; The King : I think it was sad they didn't show him more as a Crown Prince. But its not a secret to the close people to them. It kept me Interested. But sometimes powerful people, criminals would keep people who really look like them to escape death just as yi heon did. Anyway since i have heard of this king and his door keeper story since childhood the concept wasn't that new to me. So I dropped it. Irrelevant time frame. I said it all up there- do I really need to say it again? If you want to tell a story about a Clown being King, do NOT make that ENTIRE premise hinge on a single character and then treat him as a plot device! His death scene was really great. Very sad but thoroughly enjoyed the series. Finally its time for Ha Sun to go. It's not that King Loves is terrible, but if you put MLDBC, MLSHR and KL on a scale, KL veers more towards the extreme that is occupied by MLSHR, instead of the MLDBC extreme. I totally appreciated your comments. It wasnt explicitly said, but I believe that once he had gotten revenge on Minister Shin and the queen dowager, he realized that hed been using the throne for his own personal reasons and thats why he abdicated to someone who could truly put the country first. I hope you get to see many many wonderful sageuks in the future!, Thank you very much, @peony!!! Why even give us Yi Heon as a character with a backstory to begin with if youre just going to do that to him. ;-). For me, the difference between Minister Lees decisions to end a life and Minister Shins or the queen dowagers is the intent. Among the antogonistic, closed-mided high officials, there was a belief of a there being a clowned crown. Hope his next drama also does well. 2/4 Also, I long awaited the story of how the twins were born and one was sent away so both were equally Royal. I liked seeing the leads, the romance was sweet to the point of unbelievable, but what the heck. No kiss for the finale? His dignified presence was a centering, moderating influence for both monarchs, and elevated every scene in which he appeared. And . Actually not a copy paste historically accurate like the history channel but more about historically sensitive etc. Connect with Facebook Predictable and flat waiting period for the queen. Legacy? Minister Lee was doing it to create a better world, and he never denied that what he was doing was wrong he accepted that he would be punished, but he was willing to sacrifice himself for his country. Why stop there? But i liked the way things happened in this drama as well. In addition, hell kill Minister Shin and Prince Jin-pyung for what happened at the assembly. All that means nothing if youre going against the almighty Team Good! Why didnt the Queen let his sister know who she was, Also I was also confused at how Shin got back in the palace back in his uniform for the assembly meeting when he broke out of jail And was sentenced to death, Because I loved the drama so much and was on the edge of my seat I was expecting a Scarlet Heart type ending or Queen for Seven Days even but do t get this one at all but would still give it 9/10. Decent show, awesome costumes and props. Nothing like watching our protagonist send off his master in the most glorious way to jerk some priceless tears. Please tell me I'm not the only one who viewed the ending as an open-ended one! The basis of him getting on the throne was not exactly morally right anyway. After a brief recap to the events of last week, we begin with Queen Dowager and the former Left State Minister plotting their next move. But because he did such a good job, I almost wished he would stay (however in the movie I wanted him to stay more than anything). Yeo Jin-gu was also just so much better and fresher as Yi Heon in every way. Ha Sun stands stock-still as Minister Shin raises his sword to strike then the gates open for Minister Shin to see that his soldiers have all been killed or captured. For one example: Moo Young. I mean, i dropped this show about halfway through so I didn't watch the back half. But, instead of Ha Seon finding his sister and the ahjae and living happily ever after with them and So Woon, which I thought would be logical progression This kind of doppelganger plot makes more sense in the movie. Let me say it again. What does a clown symbolize? My take on the ending is that they reunited in death. After the Secretary stabbed Prince Jin, the Queen thanks Jin for his work thus far and instead vows to put another puppet in her stead on the throne to control. It was cleverly placed so he wouldnt appear foolish but experienced in many avenues of sports which pleased me very much. Some found it a plot mistake but others didn't or found it interesting . This drama you have to choose the ending I chose he had died then she did and he came to get her so they could go together to heaven. Think about this, initially only Haksan, Jo, and the Monk knew the Clown was pretending to be the King. Unfortunately, the drama version ending didn't give us much closure and added more questions that needed to be answer. Thanks s lot for this essay! Loved the show and all the actors, especially the King, not the ending, but glad I watched it. That's all we need, they said. The same night during a family game, one of the daughters finds the entrance to an eerie cellar - which Roger inspects immediately but finds nothing. And I always love reading your reviews. Thank you for the suggestion, @marcusnyc20, I will try Haechi in the future :), Congrats on your 1st Sageuk! Not because i didn't like it but because i thought it would cause to loose some viewers as yi heon really had gained some fans despite being kind of a villan (thanks to jin goos excellent acting on a villainous role. I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. What, he doesnt get to benefit from the magic two year time leap ? When I was watching HWAJUNG, I had to put it on the back burner a bit more than half-way through, and didn't get back to it for three weeks. The writers could have done better making recovery time shorter, say 3-6 months. On his way to meet up with So-woon, Ha Sun senses someone behind him and whirls but whew, its only Moo-young. Lord Giseong is crowned king, and Ha Sun dresses in common clothing as he packs to leave the palace. And his relationship with So-woon was already really nuanced and had great potential for a very unique romance in which So-woon would be the only person who had power over him. Heh. Queen Dowager walks into a trap of her own and we understand the extent of Ha Suns game-playing as he truly understands how to navigate the vipers pit. And thats really poor writing. The Clown cannot be King if there is no pre-existing King for him to pretend to be. Its not even just that, its poorly constructed as a concept, let alone a written piece. Got bored reading the comments with such fervor to bring the drama down. Ha Sun meets with some young scholars, who have compiled Exemplar of Korean Medicine. Ha Sun wants to publish a version for the people to read, but the scholars argue that the people dont deserve it. Hello? And how exactly was she able to leave the palace and not return to her family home or hie herself to a nunnery as she had told Daebi that she would do? But overall i really had fun and thrill watching it. She walks out of the village and into a field to think, carrying one of her wishing hazelnuts with her. It's an interesting interpretation, but I prefer them alive :). Two years pass by and we see So Woon a broken shell of the woman she once was. I only read the first two parts at least thats what was there when i started reading it. The ending. Though nervous he won't be able to pull off the subterfuge, the decoy leads successfully, and falls in love with the queen in the process. Gap-soo and Dal-lae have rejoined their clown troupe. And the music is perfection. It's songs were crappy, but the instrumentals hold their ground against even Dae Jang-geum and Arang and the Magistrate instrumentals. I thought I would have gotten caught up by now, but have held off until CROWNED CLOWN cleared the decks. It would have been nice to have more info on who retrieved his body and nursed him back to health and where. The Clown manages to fluke his way out of the accusations (without anyone on his side dying), and then the Villains lead a rebellion that is entirely unsuccessful and was executed without intelligence so that the Good Guys (lol) can win very easily and eliminate all threats, in the space of about 20 minutes, as if the last fifteen episodes of well, drama, mean absolutely nothing. 1. It's simply epic! They showed a lot of "dream-like" features for that last scene in particular which suggested how they both died and are actually meeting at the after life : ( ( ( (. A few final thoughts: Yep, the mother of the baby that was killed so cruelly agreed to let the honorable Haksan die with utmost integrity. So what!? Thanks so much for the recaps LollyPip! Im glad it was 16 episodes. But Minister Shin and the queen dowager convinced themselves that their crimes were righteous and that they were morally innocent, when in reality they only wanted power and revenge. Its a matter of preference. Maybe some beanies can take a shot at that. Meanwhile Ha Sun is torn after receiving an urgent letter regarding troops on the Frontier. Yes, I did get a little teary at the final goodbye; The queen dowager screams at the ministers to challenge Ha Sun, but they all stand silently in support of their king. One that is like a wolf trying to be a sheep and telling everyone that it is a sheep, when its actually still a wolf. Like you I would have liked to know more of the Lord Gil Sam Bong affair. I must have been bonkers. He had no backstory. And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. Ha Sun says he has a lot more reading to do and sends Eunuch Jo on to bed, but later So-woon finds him asleep on the table. Thats all. If it was any other drama it would gain only a few comments which would decrease over time, but MLSHR had 2000 comments within few hours even during the last episodes!! Minister Shin tries to bargain, offering Ha Sun the queen dowagers head if he lets him go. Its time for our clown to sink or swim on his own, and one wrong move could mean his death and the death of everyone he cares about. It has been a pleasure. And it seems they were successful in it. The internal and external forces driving a wedge between the monarchy and its people seemed overwhelming, and someone with a weak resolve . Working myself into a lather wasn't good for me. If it was a challenge to my Sageuk Sages @kiara and @pakalanapikake then this sageuk punk is in good company. Minister Shin takes advantage of the confusion to try to sneak Prince Jin-pyung out of the palace, but theyre stopped at the gates. You're most welcome, Chingu! And OOC*. He never had a chance to be anything other than a plot device that was promptly forgotten. My take on the ending was that he was nursed back to health though we dont know how and who took care of him. I'll definitely read it. She gave up and it seems they met in Heaven? This probably means I have to watch "Vincenzo" to find out what Kim Hee-won's visual style is.) They just look at each other for a long time, then So-woon says that she has this dream all the time, but when she approaches, he usually disappears. Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. I really liked this drama. 9 is following him into the sageuk? I honestly also would prefer this ending, as this is more fitting of the whole narrative. XD), I saw same say so woon biting on the hazel nut is a metaphor for her hurting herself and finding ha sun in a dream. She decides to let Ha Sun pay tribute to Minister Lee, so he allows Minister Shin and Prince Jin-pyung to leave the palace. General Kang asks whether he should bring his men to the capital or prepare to fight at the border. Eventually, the rice payment law goes into effect in a few southern provinces to begin. Thats not all though as we soon find out. That is the amount of respect or rather fear a king was able to inflict upon others in those days. After wrapping up the loose ends with both Queen Dowager and Sin Chi Soo, we skip forward a year (or so I presume due to the first dialogue exchange). Was glad when I saw Officer Jang want to accompany him, but then when those assassins attacked I was like????? created an account to say, I totally agree with you. The last 15mins is just drama just for the sake of drama. The Crown Season 5 ending explained The episode begins with the Royal Family agreeing to the decommissioning of the royal yacht, Brittania. According to Nielsen Korea, the highly-anticipated March 4 finale of the historical drama achieved the drama's highest viewership. Alas, it never materialized. At the very least, he would have to be conflicted about it, because he was only obeying Haksans orders because they came from the king or were in the kings best interests. But then theres no indication he ever did learn the truth, and he kept serving Ha Seon as king, and the show then tried to pass off him dying to save Ha Seon (after Ha Seon has already abdicated the throne) as being the same thing as dying in the line of duty as a royal guard. Minister Shin manages to growl, You lowly clown before Ha Sun yanks back his sword and slashes his throat. I doubt the ministers were this stupid not to reveal something that they know to be true. (Oh, I was forgetting Eunuch Cho. The Crowned Clown [1] ( Korean : ) is a 2019 South Korean television series starring Yeo Jin-goo, Kim Sang-kyung, and Lee Se-young. Idk anymore. The Queen- The Clown saved the Queen, thus the Queen forgave him, and then also abandoned the King as a pre existing character. And it was filled with MLSHR comments!) I cannot believe that Lord Shin would have allowed himself to walk into a trap. My sister's 1st one was MLSHR, and now she thinks it's the BEST ever Sageuk in the whole world and uses it as a scale to measure other Sageuks. And the drama did well as well. It showed the King, as a character. He basically committed suicide by cop, which makes no sense. Speaking of Haksan- Haksan killed the king. Ha Sun orders the ministers waiting outside to enter. Chief Royal Secretary is dead. It was about the time due to the constant conflict among the delegates of his courts. Then the death of Officer Jang and the unnecessary pain the Queen had to go through while grieving for Hasun. He says that serving Ha Sun has been a once in a lifetime blessing, and they hug, both of them crying. After all the drama and pain of the last 15 and a half episodes, after firmly declaring he wants to take Yi Heon's throne and use his power for good, he justdecides to walk away. All I ever wanted for Ha Sun and So-woon was for them to live a normal life like normal people, and they got exactly what they deserved each other. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. [ENG SUB] Lee Se Young interviews Yeo Jin Goo for Cosmopolitan KoreaPart 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJovfWJncToPart 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=. Predictable and flat waiting period for the queen. Gotta say though, I did enjoy the political aspect of this series even if it was neglected in the last couple of episodes. Of course, they arent worth the time I suppose. It was a treat to see Jang Gwang reprise his film role as the King's eunuch. Mohamed Al-Fayed's expectations for his son Dodi are the cliff upon which Season 5 leaves its audience hanging. What a load of crap! It would have been fun to watch someone as stoic as him being all awkward around someone as bubbly and mischievous as she is. 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